Meeting evil how does it end

Joanie becomes suspicious and unnerved about her house guest. John returns and comes face to face with Mr.

Evil himself. It turns out to be a stormy night and there is a very uncomfortable dinner between the three where all sorts of secretes come to light. John is caught between love for his wife and believing in the evil seeds planted in his head by Ritchie. The night ends John back up in the hole his twisted adventure started in.

A battle of power with Ritchie and within himself ensues as the nightmare comes to a end. I really enjoyed this movie. It has twist and turns that keep the viewer interested and unable to turn away. Meeting Evil does not disappoint. Samuel L. Jackson is as awesome as ever. I give this movie Five stars. Jackson Tracie Thoms. One lingering question. Next thing is we see the gas pump handle hit the ground with no one around. What happened?? Where is everyone? Did the guy run into the gas station to save his family from being hurt?

So many stupid thoughts in here lol. Go re-watch the movie: richie said wife n him never met but he then mentioned she hired him via someone else Didnt say who. Including your wife and kids" thus he was tryna get them to fight later on the table scene. He surely is evil AND not human Come on! How could he do what he pleased wherever and whenever and not being caught? Also, john jr.

Is his son, Sam apparently not Come on And he was about to commit suicide in the eginning but richie came his way to show him there are far worse things in this world to make him suffer a littlebit more Til he got a grip of how evil the world was and learned to fight back. I too noticed that no one had seen him until he wanted himself to be revealed. The thing is when story touches the real life issues such as lay-offs, foreclosures and weak moments, affairs, our imagination exaggerates.

Simply Evil comes and knocks the door just before the good guy thinking to suicide. Kind o religious. Evil would kill him but metaphorically little girl angel stops evil. He takes our good guy to his car but realizes how good and naive the guy is.

He wants to show the real world to him. I share all the testing stuff ideas. Last play of evil was to make family fight with each other. For me affair of the wife was unexpected but what about the affair of John. Cheating Wife but does it make her a killer. Story at the end shows John looking at the daughter with love but when he goes to the bed full of questions. And last whisle means evil half succeded with suspicion. Fat is great idea showing that mother is not very caring one.

And low fat cookies, she knows what is best for herself or people but she does not care about her family.

Even the last night, after her husband is out of jail and trouble, her pork chops are not cooked well. And ear thing to her son but not the girl, is another signal that she is not a good mother.

At the end police officer realizes the contradiction. You could make this movie end in a different scenarious as you wish. I love this one. John protected his family and his soul. Is he the same man after all of this. I don't think so. Why does the police officer at the end say : "Something I could never do. I thought he was saying "forgive her". He could never forgive her. But I don't think he did.

I think he plans on killing her eventually. Hence the whistle. I think John being the good guy he is he doesn't kill her. I believe the whistle shows that even though he's a good guy he now acknowledges all of the evil in the world.

Also, does anybody know if Richie's Whistling occured before or after specific situations?? I didn't really pay attention to it, but now I am asking myself that question?! What exact situations did the whistles follow?? Champ reminded me of a very weird incident that I had totally forgotten about. The guy at the gas station that looked at John. That was a real weird situation. Why did he stare like that, creepy??

Really weird! The movie personified the seven deadly sins: 1. Lust: John relationship with co worker 2. Gluttony: The constant reference of being fat and the over eating of the children.

Greed: The wife hiring the hitman for the insurance money. Sloth: The messy home of the grandma and the kid. Wrath: The killing spree of Richie. Envy: The reference made by the cop about these rich people having problem. Pride: The cockiness of the lead detective thinking he knows how it all went down. Each character seem to embodied each sin. Also the naming of the character can imply something. John in the bible is known as highly spiritual characters. Richie can imply being rich.

The bible stating it easier for camel to enter the eye of a needle than for a rich man to make it in. Just some thought and I agree the movie is a success, because of the amount of thought provocation it induced. I personally feel Richie was a hit man hired by the wife. Somehow the devil got caught up in his body. He plan on killing John but he's protected by the child angel and dog. John was the one who was whistling in the end and this devil will move on to his next victim I really enjoy reading everyone else reviews.

Check out the link above. Ive got some points that i dont think have been mentioned yet, that support the theory that john is of supernatural origin. In some stories about demons and the devils temptations, the demons and the devil usually have to be invited, and dont usualy make people do things against their will, but rather coax them into situations. If you watch carefully, john never really strongly resists or flat out tells richie to do things, but the 2 times he does, richie listens.

Any time john says no or dissagrees, richie either talks his way into john agreeing in the begining or just scares john into agreeing towards the end The 2 times that john flat out tells richie what he wants, richie does it. Richie lets him and goes to the pub alone. Richie knows what john wants, so he tricks john by asking "what do you want" john says leave me alone, so he agrees and leaves him stranded, taking the car to johns house.

Another one of interest, Why does richie have such a strong need for an invitation? He scared john into inviting him over.

He kills cops, and massacres innocent people for no reason, but wont come over unannounced? John invited him, he goes to johns house, johns wife answers, he's just killed 2 cops, but he just stands at the door, being weird, untill johns wife invites him in.

I dont think he could enter the house unless invited. Watch it again and look out for richies need for approval or invitation for things, and how he twists things around, or scares john to get him to invite, or alow things.

John was the perfect target because he was so much of a push over, he wouldnt really strongy object to things. The hitman theory no matter how you put it doesnt hold any weight since richie kills so many people. Why would a hired hitman walk into a service station and kill everyone? Also, i believe the little girl to be some kind of guardian. In the begining, richie pulls out his gun and is about to kill john.

The only thing that stops him, is the little girl standing there. Kids didnt stop john later on? The interview have1master posted above the director writes: He appears to be evil, and to John he is, indeed, evil.

In a very real sense, John conjured this being. Richie and John are very symbiotic. Any body figured in the 7 deadly sins that's shown throughout the movie? The currently recognized version of the sins are usually given as wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.

This would also tie in to the biblical views of the movie. Maybe John called for the hit man to do him in do his wife and kids could live comfortably again? Richie did state that it wasnt a direct call, when the wife said "I have never spoken to you before! My brother thinks that the wife did set up john for insurance money because at the beginning samuel l jackson had a gun and was about to kill john until he saw that little girl.

And then later samuel l jackson tells john that she sets him up. And everytime to john mentioned his wife's name is samuel l jackson scoffs. I have a question What was the meaning behind the overweight children I am sure there was some symbolism behind this I have my theory and wanted to see what others thought.

One detail that popped out to me was all of the people we know Richie killed with the exception of hiss boss and the grandmother listened to what he asked. He always asked people to come closer. It almost seemed like he could only kill the "sheep".

Just before Richie knocking at John's door for the 1st time, John's wife said she's taking the kids out , when Richie ask John to help him to to push the car at the front door, John's taking a peek at his house and his phone and car keys, the car keys is still there and i wonder how the wife and kids going out at that time using spare keys??

John might have died suicide and so does his wife and kids he killed them all and buried at that pool digging side and Richie's knock at the door scenes is a symbolic of "Angel of Death" doing his usual thing. I believe John is in the other world purgatory??? I was watching the movie under the assumption that John was a schizophrenic and Riche was his other side. Watch the movie from this perspective and you might see what I am talking about.

The way his wife was reacting seemed to really hint towards this idea. I could be wrong, but it seemed to make sense to me as a possibility. Okay this movie confused me! I was following untill the very end, who was whistling?? Was it John? And why did it seem the detective guy supported John possibly killing his wife?? Because he said "He's doing something i never could" implying he knew!

Or was it Richie come back to life???? If so, why was John acting so weird and why did the detective make that comment??? The seven deadly sins is spot on. Richie is a demon or the devil leaning more toward demon and he cant come in unless invited.

John is a man at the end of his rope. This wasnt a random killing spree, it was a tryout to see if he had the heuvoes to be one of the devils death dealers. Insurance had nothing to do with it. Btw john knew his wife was cheating the uneasiness of the convo with the contractor and his staring and pushing himselve on the shovel was a metaphor for the greeks thrusting themselves on there blades when they had lost the battle, or am i wrong? Ok just finished watching the film and read all of these wonderful theories.

Firstly I fo agree that the movie served purpose since it struck up such great debate and now I want to take a stab at it I don't think richie is a demon or supernatural. Considering the small town and how country it was with long desolate roads etc it could be possible that he committed all of those murders which probably came as a shock to a town which doesn't get much action. I believe john's wife hired richie hence all of the info he had on him and his attempt to pull the gun and stuff john in the trunk.

Richie was pretty honest though he was brash. I feel like he did see the kindness and john and wanted him to stop turning his back on things and letting everything slide, that's why richie got excited when john almost killed the wife and always seemed to try to encourage john to kick some ass.

Richie said "we" killed the trucker,richie wanted john to off his boss,and even did in the clerk who refused to treat john with respect. I think richie wanted jihn to to be blind to the evil of the world and stop being so naive because that's the shit that has your wife calling in the hit now.

Richie killed any and everyone except the little girl direct witness and john's mistress which was the one evil that john did so keeping her alive was like a trophy. I believe john met evil at the end when he stabbed ritchie and killed him. Richie accomplished his goal he brought john to the side of evil so now he can rest in peace richie's work was done. John's wife did have the "aww fuck" look when john came up alive from the water and couldnt even look john in the face when he came to bed.

She asked if they were gonna be alright but her look said "man I just dodged a bullet" also when she had the golf clubs she almost hit john but probably realized she was making richie's story sound true so she had to save face and what better way than to club richie who already looks like the bad guy and also botched her plans. At the end I think that was john whistling because by this time he has already been introduced to evil and he wants to handle this job himself he is done turning his back.

The kids were a curveball in the film but I guess I can't help but play on that as well. This is one thing everyone has left out. Richie gun neverhad a silecer so how come he never heard gun shots in the store. I think john was doing the killing. This is Quayman writing It is obvious that Richie is demon possessed.

Notice How Richie's teeth become jagged and yellow tinged when john has the Knife to his wifes neck. I feel that the demon inside Richie wanted to wake up John's naive mind he wanted to show him the real world before he killed him.

In many of the death scenes, Richie killed someone who John had a problem with like the desk clerk with the bad attitude. Richie was trying to get John to realize that everything isn't what it seems and to stop being a push over. Richie can't kill innocence. Richie killed the boy because though he was a child, the boy still had evil intentions in his heart. The boy cursed and when Richie went for the gun the boy fired but was too late.

Richie also couldn't kill John because he couldn't find any evil in his heart which is the reason he spent all day trying to provoke John to do evil so he could kill him along with his wife. Also notice that Richie couldn't kill Johns children because they weren't evil. Once John stabbed Richie it gave Richie all the authority to go after John and try to kill him.

When the detective shot Richie John came out of the water possessed with the demon that was in Richie, hence the whistling as the credits rolled. The fat kids and the FAT word that kept comming up throughout the movie signified the hatred in John's wifes heart for his adultry. She wanted a different life and was taking her frustrations with John out on the kids by stuffing them with food.

The demon theory is bullshat, it has way to many flaws. I feel his wife was simply hiring Rich to kill him. He knows everything about him because he was watching him, hence him speeding by. I felt it was pretty straight forward that she wanted him dead for the money. Richie was just a hitman who snapped and wanted John to realize what he's been put up for. Someone above me mentioned all the reasons his wife would want hiim dead so I won't repeat all that.

As for rich being a demon and couldn't attack him until he was evil is dumb, he got a knife in the chest and was going to kill him for stabbing or betraying him. His kids weren't his because they looked like the pool guys and if they were his wife was going to kill them off too with obesity.

When he was upstairs she didn't even bother to help the kids or even care to save them. All in all she was out to get him and Richie was just a hitman who got sick of peoples evil and bull and snapped. At the end I'm sure John was going to kill his wife, or was contemplating it. My theory is that John was aware of everything from the beginning. And was probably planning to kill his wife for the money And may be his affair was not ended, but on pause until they take care of his wife. May be or may not be unaware of his wife's affair.

But Richie's intervention changed everything.. And since both wanted to kill each other, they are not sure about each other I can't believe that John knew everything from the beginning, he just seems too damn innocent. I do however think there was always some sort of demonic aura that Richie always seemed to have. He always knew everything about everyone and even though he may have been human, he seemed to have some sort of higher power that enabled him to get away with everything up until the end where he was killed by John, unless of course he wasn't dead and the whistling was him coming back to kill John and the wife.

But I would rather believe that it was John whistling because it was a much slower melody, meaning that it was someone different whistling. That is why I conclude that John is now the one who has been turned evil, which will have him do things that he would have never done at the beginning of the movie. I hope there isn't a sequel because this movie is far too intriguing to have any more details released. Dogs are not colour-blind. Check the research. Colour-blindness in dogs is a myth.

Lots of different views and opinions but does anybody think mine has any merit John;s wife hired Richie to murder him. But John's a "nice guy" that gets walked all over his whole life. Rickie is there to teach John to stand up for himself and even like the fat donut eater said to John to "grow some balls" I think this was Richies' role was to teach John to grow some balls and stand up for himself.

Richie mentioned this many times over ex. At the end I think the "new" John stands up for himself and kills his chica. I also think he really wanted to be with the other girl but he only ever referred to his wife as his wife and nothing more like that he was in love with her??? Any comments please Every one else is thinking too much, but not the way they should. That whistle in the end?

That whistle is Johns, There's got to be more with the fat theme and the kids. It occurs too much but doesn't seem to have a solid significance. The huge bowls of Mac n cheese aren't even touched and the mom asked if they were finished. Then Sam touched her brother and winks right before Richie knocks at the door. Why, were they expecting something? I'm surprised no one has mentioned that yet. Also Richie tells john he has two little angles. Are they fat to represent cherubs, some kinda guardian angle?

There has to be more to the kids, they are fat for a reason and I don't think to show they weren't Johns kids. Any thoughts? Richie does tell John that he has two little angels. All of these sound viable, though my fav is the supernatural concept. If you re watch the movie you will notice two key scenes in which there is a significant reference to the devil.

Just before we see Ritchie make his kill of the trucker, they drive past a railroads crossing Then, after escaping the farm John flags down the police car with Ritchie driving, and asks for his help.

This also occurs on a crossroads. Just my two cents Kyler. Amazing Stuff, at first I was skeptical but now convinced of the purgatory theory. I believe most of the relative points to this have already been made.

However, I wanted to mention a few additional thoughts. The first is when they are at the gas station, is the actual John and his family or the version of a family that his purgatory family is based on. Johns wife hates the kids and is making them fat because they are angels and she cant get rid of them. I think their fatness is representative of one of the seven deadly sins, like an earlier poster had referenced, all 7 sins are represented.

Plus if I remember right there was a point in the movie where Richie is temping John and John responds "I have faith". I agree with alot of what has been said thus far. But I do tend to believe that there are spiritual significance in the movie.

The part when Richie comes in the house, pretending to be a police officer, and after talking to John's wife, and her bringing him numerous drinks, John finally comes in the room, while Richie is coming from the kids room,Richie then says to John, you have 2 little angels in there, not one but 2, you are so lucky! Meaning, the acts that he wanted to commit he couldnt, do to their presence! Same incident when John was pushing the car, the car back fires, and Richie jumps out of the car with intentions to kill, but couldn;t, because there was another child angel standing there.

There is definitely multiple interpretations that one can make here, after looking over the evidence, I do believe the wife is a Sociopath. Everything points to this, her attitude towards the children and the police officers, having an affair with the contractor, telling john that doing his best "isn't good enough", clearly willing to kill him towards the end with a knife -- she shows all the signs of a classic Sociopath. As for Richie, well his character is bit over the place.

Hired killer would have no need to go on a unrelated killing spree while in the process of killing john, I believe more towards richie being like a "grim reaper" he's come for richie, just as he's come for all the others he kills, but for some reason shows him compassion and tries to open his eyes to the danger he is in, kind of a "second chance".

At the end john puts this all together and what happens after that is obviously beyond the movie. It's the boss. The girl who John had the affair with, she broke up with her beau - John's boss - to be with John, who didn't do likewise.

John's boss, the guy at the bar who disappears, he fired John. He's also out to eff-up John's life, big-time, even eff-up John's wife, via the hired-thug, Richie. Richie found himself moved at John's kindness at the door on their first face-to-face meeting, and this was highly disturbing to Richie, who considers himself a professional, that he could respond to kindness.

Richie was still going to shoot John, and put him in the trunk, but the little girl with the dog: Richie feels like he's been given some supernatural signals from wherever, not to do this. First the kindness, now this sign of a little girl placed serendipitously showing up as a witness at this crucial moment.

This is highly disturbing to Richie, so he goes on his killing spree, because his world is coming apart, from kindness and from 'signs' from beyond, telling him not to be so evil. This is upsetting his fixed and immutable soul, upsetting to his conviction that the world is very bad place, and that he was right to close himself off from his own humanity.

On getting the contract-hit, Richie had done his due diligence, scoping out the house, calling them, hearing the wife's voice, knowing his target s. Richie doesn't know that it wasn't John's wife that hired him, just some guy.

He didn't know it was the boss. He just took the boss outside the bar and killed him, just because this boss was mean to John, whom Richie is strangely protective of. So, at the end, now that both the boss and Richie are dead The distrust will linger, and Richie's whistling will be in John and his wife's heads a long time.

John knows somewhere down deep that his killing Richie was, in a strange way, wrong. Yes, Richie would have liked to see John's wife suffer, thinking that she hired him to kill John.

But John will think over and over and over that Richie could have killed him so many times, but didn't. That 'why didn't he' will haunt John for a long time. He may eventually figure out that it was the boss, but it'll take him quite a long time. To the film-makers: the truth is there to find in your movie, but so very subtle and well hidden with the more Usual Suspects. Thumbs up. This one surprised me with its subterranean intelligence.

I thought I had the movie figured out and I like my ending better! The reason Richie knew everything about John they liked pork chops, scotch etc. The moment right before they actually met at the door John was in the backyard deeply troubled possibly realizing who the pool guy really was, thinking about being fired, and all his econmomic troubles.

That should have been the moment his personality fragmented, creating the Richie character. A mean sob who didn't take crap. If you remember Richie said we are more alike than you think. I could go deeper in to detail, but this would've also explained why we hear Richie's whistling at the end.

He said at one point he didnt have to make a choice as if it were a privelage. But answer me this The car richie had was sweet. Did richie return to finish johns wife off? He didnt seem to like the women in johns life. I am ripping my hair out over this. Sometimes I hate movies that do a piss poor job of leaving out details or having a plot that isn't clear to understand. I just watched the movie and halfway through it I was semi lost. I don't agree with the demon theory.

The wife from the very beginning wasn't worried about nothing but money and more focused on badgering him. Richie is first seen flying past the house when John pulls up NOT when he rang the door bell.

The pool guy is seen leaving shirtless. The pool guy tells him don't worry about it that's because he is getting paid in SEX. Richie planned this from jump.

He knew everything about him where and whom could this info be gotten none other than the wife. Also when coming out the bar far in the distance the car is spotted parked nearby before Richie says it was supposedly towed.

After Tammy engages in a heated debate with Richie where he was throwing out innuendos that raised a flag in her mind and should've also in John's but he was still clueless. This is my theory the wife already knew the hardships they were facing, she knew about the affair, and she knew about his deal falling through because she orchestrated the whole thing.

She was planning to kill all along. There is no other connection that ties Richie to John other than the wife otherwise Richie's character wouldn't even make sense as to why he is in the movie in the first place.

My only dilemma is the little girl who seems to have irresponsible parents or homeless because she was seen at all times of the day and night, and was never seen at specific house she was just there. It is quite obvious that John is disappointed when he finds out that nothing actually happened to his family. From what I can remember, when John came home and looked at the backyard, it did look like three graves were freshly dug.

At first I thought that maybe John snapped and killed his family or maybe for one second he thought someone had actually beat him to it or at least he entertained the idea not because he didn't love his family but because he could finally give up on everything if they were in fact already dead. Maybe then he could end himself without feeling and obligation to stay alive for his family.

I think Richie kept whistling that song because the Dixie lyrics has look away look away look away at then end of each part. Richie repeatedly said how John spent his whole life looking away.

Richie was definitely not of this world well not a normal human being anyway. He had some supernatural gifts or may have been under the influence of the dark side so to speak. Richie used to be like John, a family man and a upstanding citizen and then lost it and did somethings and got punished by becoming the angel of death so to speak. About the little girl with the dog, she is not an angel, but she has a sixth sense and can feel and see evil things.

The wife may not have actually hired a hit man but she might have wished for something bad to happen to John which was like cursing someone. I believe John and his wife have argued so many times in front of the children that the children learned to just shut everything out.

Of course John would always lose the arguments with his wife. If the wife actually hired someone to kill John, I don't think she would plan a surprise party with cake for John selling the house, but I do think that she secretly wished or prayed for something bad to happen to John. Plus remember, how would she hire anyone to kill John, they had no money.

When John was in the backyard and looked like he was about to do something, it was him just realizing, hey, we have no money to fix this pool, why is this guy in my house? Just when he was about to really get angry, the doorbell rang.

The man in the gas station was trying to warn John and tell John to go, but John looked away. I do believe that was an angel and then disappeared maybe because he was never really there, but that family was shown to John to remind him of his family which was quickly down played by Richie's comment about how hot the wife was at the gas station. I also believe that something really bad happened to Richie before he got taken over by a dark force and maybe white people had something to do with it seeing how it seemed that he was looking for respect from the various white people that he encountered in the movie.

He needed to feel power and no matter how he dressed or what car he drove, people still disrespected him even as a police officer. The killing of the black police officer was only to give him enough time to influence John one last time. I also believe that Richie or what possessed him was jealous of John in some way and wanted John to react just as he had when he had a family of his own.

Plus Richie was way too calm to be a normal human being and not one under the influence of something. He didn't kill John at first maybe because John was the first white man who actually sincerely wanted to help him without thinking any negative thoughts. He needed John to do something bad first before he could kill him. The influence over Richie by the dark side just added to whatever negative outlook Richie had about people in the world.

Also, Richie seemed to have a smile on his face when he was laying in the water after being shot like finally i can be free of this demon.

The whistling at the end was significant because John is now looking at his wife and not looking away because I am pretty sure if the whistling were actually coming from either one of them, the lights would have instantly been turned back on. The hit man theory makes no sense because it would have been impossible for that to look like his wife had nothing to do with it. The whole point would be to make it look like a robbery or accident and hiring a hit man like that to abduct him right in front of his house didn't play at all.

As far as the police outside the door , I believe Richie just told them that he will take it from there, and pulled the gun just in case the officers asked for some identification. The whole point was to pull John down to Richie's level as a result of his lost soul. John and his girlfriend knew they were facing some kind of evil which is why they seemed so helpless and fearful. Even when John had the gun, he didn't have the courage to use it and that is exactly what Richie wanted before he took John out.

He wanted John to lose it. Richie's actions were not one of a hit man, but of all of those killing sprees and serial killers we read about in the papers. When people are empty, they tend to let something else in. At the end, John became empty and I believe got possessed by something himself. The fact that he was looking at his kids for a while was just that he was very confused about everything that happened and maybe spending time with them before doing something that he knew he would eventually do to the mother.

Enough was enough and I think he was finally tired of all the insanity and craziness experienced in his marriage. She has pushed him very hard the entire marriage maybe. Sorry if my thoughts or opinions are stupid.

The biggest signal that I picked up on that supports the claim that John's wife did indeed hire Richie as a hitman, is the scene where John's wife and Richie talk alone for the first time in the movie.

Did seem like whistling but it drowned into the ending credits music. So may be nothing was intended. Maybe the husband was picking up the evil spirit from Samuel after he learned his wife wanted him dead for the insurance money, although there was no proof of the murder plot. I was think that too. I was thinking that maybe the whistling was an indication that John might not have forgiven his wife for the affair, and he might have believe that she tried to kill him,therefore the whistling would indicate that he was thinking about about killing her,or something like that.

He was in a way become like Richie. Luv Kades join swagbuck swagbucks. This whole movie was carried on the implication that something deeper was going on and then it turned out nothing deeper was really going on. I wouldn't read anything into any of it. The ending was just the standard thriller ending--it appears the hero has overcome the villain, but wait The screenwriter just tagged on a lazy ambiguous ending so that the audience would speculate on a payoff that isn't really there.

I hate this movie. We'll think up something else to get upset about. Sam and Luke were the same person! Sam's character was just an invention of "Luke's" mind. It's very obvious.

None of the events in the movie made sense. Because we were seeing what was going on in Luke's mind You can see the whole scenery from the start is like a dream, it doesn't seem real.